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krigo666 ,

I just bought a new LG TV with QNED screen. It will NEVER be connected to the Internet, or any network. The 'smart' part might as well not exist on the TV.

octopus_ink ,

Not even one time for a firmware update?

Ste41th ,

What so they can update their tv to add Microsoft’s ai shit?

ReallyActuallyFrankenstein ,

I know we're taking about LG, but firmware updates really are as likely to break as to fix core functionality in my experience.

My Hisense TV is automatic, full-on lockdown-until-you-update. You literally can't use the TV until it updates. And lo and behold, after an update that I did everything to try to decline but couldn't, we couldn't connect to the Internet. Cue to 4 months of arguing with Hisense support to get a working TV again - a TV I paid for, to which Hisense applied an update against my will, that broke it.

The only updates I trust at this point and welcome are Valve updates to my Steam Deck.

corroded ,

I'm in this same situation and at least for me, no, not even once for a firmware update.

If the TV is displaying the image that's coming from whatever input source I'm using, then the firmware is already just fine.

octopus_ink ,

Fair, but I mean, there could be bugfixes, etc, that' s what firmware updates are for.

I'm not arguing with you really, but at least one firmware update opportunity seems like a good practice for just about everything, IMO. I have a current Samsung TV, and it has been allowed to connect via my guest network exactly one time, after which I deleted the relevant settings.

r00ty ,
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If you're just using the HDMI ports, there's not really many bugfixes you're likely to need. Most bugfixes will be to the "smart" part. Which, if you don't want to connect it to the internet, you aren't using at all.

pmc ,

I've needed firmware updates to fix issues with HDR or eARC before.

r00ty ,
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Yeah, it's not outside the realm of possibilities. But by far, they're more likely to be updates for the smart features.

octopus_ink ,

To each their own, just surprised more people don't see it as a consideration.

Cyber ,

I updated a Phillips (I think?) TV - years ago, so this was over-the-air, not internet - and the built-in Program Schedule started showing adverts that were obviously in the update.

Eventually the ads stopped appearing, so at least there was some form of expiry date, but no, I'm very wary of consumer updates.

TVs should remain as display devices. I even keep the tuner equipment as a separate device to upgrade separately - sorry if that doesn't increase their market share.

What next? A toaster with butter spreader built-in?

r00ty ,
@r00ty@kbin.life avatar

What next? A toaster with butter spreader built-in?

Yes, but the it burns the logo of the highest bidder each month onto your toast.

Cyber ,

🤔 interesting idea...

(Calls patent office)

TVA ,
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What next? A toaster with butter spreader built-in?

I mean, that's at least a feature that you can look at and say "Huh, I'm not lazy enough to use it myself, but I'm glad it's there for Granny who has arthritis and can't hold the knife very well anymore" UNLIKE the AI which is basically just there for Samsung/LG to get money from Microsoft and for Microsoft ... ??? ... Profit???

corroded ,

I use my TV as basically just a dumb display panel. If it can display 4k/60, then there is no bug that needs to be fixed. I don't even use built-in audio.

I connected my other TV to my network once when my Nvidia Shield wasn't working. That TV is still showing advertisements in the main menu for shows that were released 3 years ago.

octopus_ink ,

Your use case is nearly identical to mine. Still wanted to be sure there weren't bugs in HDR or other display features that needed to be addressed.

Look I'm not saying ZOMG HOW CAN YOU NOT GET A FIRMWARE UPDATE, I'm just surprised both that so many people don't and that so many people don't even seem to see why they might want to.

Krudler ,

You're wasting your breath. These people are smart enough to know that you can connect (hell, even to an ad-hoc network if you're so f'king paranoid) once to FW update then hard-reset. These people are just being pissy. They also know that "IF dIsPLaY PIcTuRe No BUg PosSiBLe" are absolutely lying to themselves because they're not actually that technically illiterate.

I hate it when people pretend to be dumb just to continually underscore a feeble point.

octopus_ink ,

I was coming around to that conclusion, but thank you for validating it! :)

corroded ,

I completely understand what you're saying; in general, I tend to agree that if a firmware update is available, it's best to install it. I keep the firmware up to date on all my networking equipment, and the first thing I do when I set up a new PC is install Windows updates (or apt-get update in Linux).

I have two TVs. One in the living room, and one in the bedroom. After the brief time I had my bedroom TV connected to my network, it immediately started serving me advertisements. I hate ads with a passion. When it comes to network security, privacy probably comes second to blocking ads in terms of priority. When it came time to replace my living room TV, I first tried to repair it, but after spending too much on a replacement mainboard that didn't do shit, I just bought a new TV. There was no way in hell I was letting it connect to the internet and download advertisements.

I have an extensive Zigbee network for home automation, 10GB fiber links between my servers and my home office, etc. My home is very much "connected." TVs are just one of those things that I will never, ever, under any circumstances, allow to connect to anything other than a video cable. If I'm paying $1000 or more for a device, I'll be damned if it's going to show me advertisements.

kipo ,

If you want to do firmware updates on a “disconnected” TV, i would recommend putting the firmware update on a usb stick and update the TV that way.

Valmond ,

Firmware update for a TV, what a time to be alive.

octopus_ink ,

I mean, they've been displays connected to a mini computer for awhile now...

Alphane_Moon ,
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I had firmware updates for a 1080 Philips TV from ~2010.

You could do it via USB.

RagnarokOnline ,

Not OP but I have the same stance that none of my TVs will connect to the internet.

It was going well until my in-laws watched our home and ended up connecting our Vizio tv all they could watch Netflix…

It updated the firmware and now the volume controls are all messed up.

kipo ,

Omg I hate Vizio TVs so much.

Dekkia ,
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Especially not one time for a firmware update.

MrPoopbutt ,

Why would I want a firmware update?

deranger ,

Just use a thumb drive

wizardbeard ,
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Can'y speak for every TV, but some of them should support downloading the firmware update from the manufacturer, tossing it on a USB stick, and plugging the USB into the TV to update.

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